I was excited to brew this beer, but it is my first kit from morebeer. When the kit arrived, it was complete, but it looked like some of the pale 2 row malt had not been milled, even thought that was what I ordered. I brewed anyway. I should have gone to my "local" brew supply (45 min. from home) and had them mill it. The OG came out 23 points low, and the fermentation stalled early. I added some more yeast and raised the temp in the fermenter, but alas there was no more fermentation. So, instead of a KBS clone, I will have a session stout. It's all beer, but I am disappointed. Probably will continue to drive the hour and a half round trip for reliable ingredients in the future. BTW, it does taste good.